Earl Stefanson, 41, Arrested for Brutally Tortured & Murder of Leslie Lamb: “Silence of the Lamb” Basement
Oakland police have arrested 41 year old Earl Stefanson is the torture and murder of 36 year 
old Leslie Lamb. It appears from their investigation that Stefanson may have killed two other woman in his home as well. What they found in Stefanson’s home upon attaining a search warrant was chilling.
Police said they were able to determine that Lamb had not been inside the car where Stefanson claimed to have found her.
Police said they determined Stefanson had a history of abusing Lamb.
When authorities searched his home in the 3400 block of Coolidge Avenue, they found Lamb’s blood and the blood of two other unidentified women.
Police said Stefanson tortured her in a room set up in his basement, which they described as frightening.
(The home on the 3400 block of Coolidge Avenue in Oakland where police arrested Earl Stefanson, SF Chronicle)
The authorities did not go into great detail regarding the basement; however, it was described as something like out of “Silence of the Lambs”. Police are trying to determine who the woman are who the blood belonged to. Stefanson has a history of abusing women. Police are trying to determine whether there are more women out there who may have been abused by Stafanson and ask that they come forward.
It appeared as if Stefanson had made an attempt to clean up the blood and conceal evidence of Lamb having been at the residence, Jones said. At this point, police have no idea who the other two victims are or even whether they are dead or alive.
When police attempted to arrest Stefanson Tuesday night, he led them on a lengthy chase through Oakland and Hayward, Jones said.
Oakland police, with assistance from Hayward police, were eventually able to capture Stefanson and take him into custody. (NBC San Diego)
A former wife of an Stefanson she had lived in fear of her husband and endured “major abuse” during their relationship a decade ago.
She said the abuse stopped only after she and her husband, Earl Stefanson, were arrested for running a methamphetamine lab in Butte County.
“I was forced to be there. I was afraid to leave,” said the woman, who has since remarried and asked that she not be named because she was afraid for her safety. “I lived in a state of fear.”
Stefanson, 41, the son of an ex-president of the Hells Angels’ Oakland chapter, was charged Thursday with murdering Leslie Lamb, a single mother who police said was his girlfriend. Police said he had a torture chamber in his home in the Oakland foothills and that they fear he may have harmed other women. (San Francisco Chronicle)
Earl Stefanson has quite the checkered past:
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Ex-wife said she had suffered regular abuse from Stefanson during their five-year marriage. She would not go into details, but said the abuse did not include torture.
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In 1995, she and Stefanson were arrested for allegedly making methamphetamine and growing marijuana in Oroville (Butte County).
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Stefanson pleaded no contest in June 1996 and was sentenced to nine years in state prison for running a methamphetamine lab.
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she had often seen her daughter with black eyes and bruises. “She got away safe,” she said.
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Court records show that another ex-wife of Stefanson’s, Antonia Gutierrez, obtained a restraining order against him in Fresno County in 1985, alleging harassment.
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The younger Stefanson had one previous encounter with police in Oakland: In 2004, he pleaded no contest to lewd conduct and being drunk in public after police found him masturbating in a pickup truck near 15th and Castro streets, records show. (SF Chronicle)
Oakland police homicide investigators can be contacted at (510) 238-3821, or on the department’s anonymous tip line at (510) 777-3211.
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Earl is a real freak!!! Obviously he burned his mind out with drugs; but people like him usually kill more than one person and have numerous victims before getting caught.
The police have already announced that they have discovered blood from two other victims from Mr. Stephanson’s home. I am more curious about that, in that there may be a connection between him and missing Nina Reiser who is also from Oakland. She has been missing since early in September and went missing when she went to the grocery store. Shortly, I think about a week, later; the police found her vehicle with the groceries still inside, but with no sign of Nina.
The police had been asking for the cooperation of her ex husband who had refused, stating that he does not trust the police (I wonder why???). At any rate, it appears that since they searched the home of Mr. Stephanson, the police have gotten strong-armed with Nina’s ex-husband; taking him into custody and forcing him to supply blood for dna testing. Their statement was that he (the ex) was not a suspect in a crime as they have not proven that there had been a crime, yet.
Nina is around the same age as Ms. Lamb and to me it seems that there may be a connection. I have a suspicion that the police are going to be testing the blood of the children that were conceived during the marriage with that of the victims blood found at the Stephanson home.
It would be sad to find that Nina has fallen victim to yet another one of the numerous mass-murderers that we have in this country; but at least everyone will know the truth; and if Mr. Stephanson has more victims, perhaps the police can find them as well.
My hat’s off to the Oakland Police Department; they’re not wasting any time on this one. I was moved by their news conference as they were both considerate and caring for the known victim as well as tight-lipped and professional for the benefit of future, potential victims. Salute!!!!
Comment by Patti | October 10, 2006
Oh yes, I failed to mention that I believe the other victim is also from the San Francisco/Oakland area: Joanna “Asha” Veil. She went missing after leaving work and like in the Nina Reiser case, her unoccupied vehicle was found within a quarter-mile from where she was last seen. However, her body was found a few days later. The police have not released information on the condition of the body.
In respect to the timeline of the disappearances and the identity of the victims I assert the following:
On August 26, 2006: Ms. Leslie Lamb, who had been secretly
seeing Mr. Stephanson over the preceeding three-month period is driven to the hospital with major injuries from the torture and beating sustained at Mr. Stephanson’s home. She is left at the hospital with a statement from Stephanson that Ms. Lamb was found in her car in that condition. She dies within minutes of her arrival.
On September 5, 2006: Ms. Nina Reiser, of Russian descent, is abducted on her way home from the grocery store. The unoccupied vehicle is reported to police about a week later, however it is ascertained that the vehicle had been in that location since around the time of Ms. Reiser’s disappearance. No body is found.
On September 9, 2006: Joanna “Asha” Veil, of Poland descent, is abducted on her way home from her work (a grocery store) in the Bay area. Her unoccupied vehicle is found within a quarter-mile from her job. Within days her body is found, face down, in a wilderness area between a dirt road and a creek.
I believe that Mr. Stephanson had a crush (as people like him are never really capable of loving anyone) on Ms. Lamb and upon murdering her, he felt guilty. She is the only vicim that he reported or tried to save after severely beating her.
But, once the rage was released, Mr. Stephanson lost control and/or felt the need to murder again. I believe that Ms. Reiser and Ms. Veil were “chance” encounters and were true random murders.
I hope I am wrong, but I have lived in that area, and I have seen how these things go. I am grateful that he was stopped before he hurt anymore women as most of these people will never stop until they are stopped.
What do you think? Possible?
Comment by Patti | October 10, 2006
Leslie Lamb was my friend. I can’t believe that this happened to her. I hope they nail this guy big time.
Comment by kristi | October 11, 2006
Oh, Sweetie, they will…thanks to Ms. Lamb. If he didn’t care about her, he would not have gotten caught. Do you realize that? And he will never, from now on, ever see the light of day. No judge, in Oakland, will ever allow this guy to walk on bond; you can rest assured of that.
The question is: Now that we have him, what do we do with him? I say we perform Scientific Experiments on him, and all those like him, to find out how people can be so heartless…
and probe his mind to find out if its psychological or genetic so we can stop people like him before its too late.
Everybody deserves to live in a safe world…and women should be able to date a guy for a few months or go to the grocery store without being abducted and tortured by an animal like this…this is not just another guy, this guy is a demon.
If we would just stop killing these guys and donate their bodies to research, we could find out why some psychotic, paranoid schizaphrenic, bi-polar, depressed or just down right mean people do these things while most of them don’t.
A person could probably get the government to do that in California where there is no death penalty…I know there has to be some medical students or psychiatric studies out there that could put this shell of a man to work for the betterment of society…because until we know why, we will always fall victim to those like him.
I’m so sorry.
Comment by Patti | October 11, 2006
My heart goes out to Leslie and her friends and family. When I look at her picture, I see a young, happy young lady with a real zest for life. It saddens me to think that her son is left motherless because we, as a nation, have not taken the steps that are necessary to rid our society of the illnesses that have come to make our country unsafe. We are all victims of these diseased minds that think that they have the right to take the life of the ones that we love so much.
Unless we act responsibly, as a civilized nation; and rage a war against those that commit violence against their own kind, we are lost. Our civil liberties mean nothing. We are not willing to hide from the sun by day and the moon by night from these people any longer. We are tired of our children being snatched from us and becoming just another face on the back of a milk carton. We are in a dark era of our history and we need to stop the violence against our families, now.
Never before, in human history, has a nation had so many casualties during time of peace. We were founded on the premice of freedom and yet we find ourselves inslaved by our own. This is not a case of living in an unsafe world; this is not a case of our citizens acting foolishly; this is a case of an illness that is spreading all too quickly in a society that does not done all it can to see that we are safe.
It has been suggested and should be strongly considered that the responsible thing to do is to do the research to find out what it is, exactly, that causes that one in a million to end up like this. For instance, it has been suggested that one evolves into a sadistic psychopath through his environment. However, there are those such as Jeffrey Dodd that put those theories to rest. There are others that say that sadistic psychopaths are born with an element of their conscience missing; as one can certainly attest to everytime they read the news about someone such as this character, or Dodd, or Gacey, or BTK, Greenriver Killer (the list is endless). It is clear that there is not an ounce of compassion in their hearts for their victims.
We also need to realize that this sort of serial killing was not something that has been around for a long time. In Europe, as well as many other countries, there is not an problem with serial murderers in epic proporations as there is here.
We are all frightened of the mad cow disease, but what about the mad human being disease that we have right here, right now? Does not that deserve our attention? I say yes.
And as gruesome as it sounds, if it takes the close study of the human brain in people known to carry the disease, I say lets do it. It has been decades since our medical and psychiatric professionals have detected new diseases of the mind, and I think its time for them to take another look.
My main point is this: We have drug companies that spend millions of dollars producing new drugs for old diseases; and while its true that there have always been sociopaths, they have never behaved like this before and at such grand scale.
I pray that there be change. I don’t want anymore Leslie Lambs. Our children deserve to live in a society where they are safe. Our women deserve to be whole and our lives should be allowed to be long. No one has the right to take away our joy.
Leslie Lamb, may you rest in peace knowing that you had a special spark that moved the unthinkable to think twice. You had the smile that moved even the cruelest of them all to cry when it was gone. The very life that you had in you is what makes it possible for us all to question our own decisions and pray for something better. You are a very special lady with all the promice of youth, no matter what your age. I will always remember you as the one that saved many because it was your bravery that made it possible for us to get this guy; and because of you, we will never forget. There is no silence in this lamb for we all have heard your screams and they shall be glorified in heaven. Thank you.
Comment by Patti | October 12, 2006
I am a monkey. And even though I try to hold my mouth, to me it is much like holding your breath.
Anyway, I feel that we are going to find out some rather interesting things from this case. Already, we know that Mr. Stephanson cleaned the multi-crime scene of the blood from the murder of Ms. Lamb. However, there were two other victims who’s DNA was found. My guess is that Mr. Stephanson, or Stefenson which ever it is, as I have seen it spelled both ways; has had a field day in the basement of his home.
I believe that they are going to be able to tie Earl; gee, that sounds better, to a number of missing person’s cases in the Bay area. There have been at least one famale body found dumped, via suitcase, in the bay; and there are still the many women who have gone missing.
Earl has had far too many empty hours, due to ruined relationships and his inability to get along with people. Time to devise his torture chamber and perfect it; as I am sure that Ms. Lamb was not the first of his victims… After all, old degraded DNA is alot easier to destroy than fresh blood; and it was still very difficult for the Police to find Ms. Lamb’s blood, much less DNA.
Yes, that’s right. He cleaned the whole thing in fear that the police would come because of him taking Ms. Lamb to the hospital. But when they didn’t show, it was back to business, not the monkey type, for Earl.
Hopefully, Mr. Stephanson was raised to cooperate with the police so they can obtain pertinant information concerning the where abouts of the others. If not, they need to find out what makes him click and use it to get him to talk. We all need to hear about the recession of the human mind into the zone, that people like this crave, and get to the bottom of it. We all need to hear what the signs are in a person that is getting ready to make that leap into fantasy where only they are the master, so we can come to notice it in others.
If we all act scared, as this is the true monster that haunts us by day and night, we will never be able to stop them. Even I am scared, but I’ll bet there are some strong and brave men out there that would love to help a woman, or for that matter, a nation of women in distress..
Fact is: There are millions of good guys out there that hate these predators as much as we do, and for that, we are grateful. Against them, he’s nothing.
Fact is: There are millions of perfectly ordinary people in this world that deserve an answer for the existance of a whole network of perverted, degraded and just plain nasty individuals such as this character.
Fact is: We are the really smart monkeys, that have the technology all ready in place and just begging to go to work in studying the human specimins that come available through acts such as these.
Fact is: There is something specifically ignorant about covering your eyes, so you can’t see the pain that these people are inflicting on their victims, such as Ms. Lamb; and, really all of us, that continue to live in fear of the boogy man. Because the:
Fact is: We need to speak it to stop it.
I’m not afraid of the Hell’s Angels… I have angels of my own. And I am not afraid of the wrath that can come from them, because in reality, they know I’m right. Besides Hell’s Angels are not that different from you and I.
And to think that Earl has the perfect excuse for what he did, because his Dad was the President. Think again. I am sure that Earl was probably given all he ever needed as a child and was in many ways, spoiled. And…..
Fact is: There is no excuse. There are no mental diseases that this man can fall under to free him of his sentence.
That’s not to say that he doesn’t have one. I think that our legal system has gotten smart enough to know that, when those old laws regarding the mentally ill were written, we weren’t dealing with mass murderers that would kill the whole world around them if they only had the time……
Fact is: What we have going here in the way of imprisonment for the rest of their lives isn’t working anymore. Neither is killing them. Every monkey knows that if you kill those around you, you kill yourself…. we are truly one. Anything that is killed by our hand, as a society, must be for a purpose other than revenge.
Fact is: We have alot of sick monkeys that need to be examined in order to get a true understanding of what it is that we are up against.
And upon finding it, MAYBE, we can do something about it, because…..
Fact is: We have our children, our sisters, our daughters and our friends to worry about.
God Bless the Children……
Comment by Patti | October 13, 2006
Look at you just like a monkey ranting on. You’ve got this guy convicted and everything.
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SM: No that would be the actual charges brought against him and his priors.
Don’t let facts get in the way though.
R
Comment by stacy | October 14, 2006
Just read the news. Mr. Reiser has been charged in the murder of his wife, Nina. According to the news, the FBI found blood on an interior door as well as in a sleeping bag that was in his home.
They have interviewed the couple’s two children and have issued a probable cause warrant for his arrest. Still no sign of Nina… the police are asking for the help of the public through continued searches.
For some reason, I thought that this one was going to be different…. domestic violence, how sad.
If there’s anyone editting this, please retract my prior statements… however, the search for the other two victims
will go on.
Comment by Patti | October 14, 2006
Oh my God!!!!!!
I just read an article in San Francisco. The press is calling Ms. Lamb the girlfriend of Mr. Stefenson.
A few months into the relationship and he FINALLY takes her to his basement so she can really get to know the kind of guy she’s with (which was probably his plan all along) and now they are going to stick her with him for the rest of her death? How Cruel!!!!!
I hope they’re not planning on white-washing this crime by making it into a private sexual game played between two consenting adults. I think I’m going to be sick?!?!?!?!?!
Adults don’t consent to being beaten with a board. And the TRUTH of the matter is that the only reason that we caught him was because after taking more than most people could ever endure, she begged him to take her to the hospital so she could see her son again; she sighed in relief and died. That’s the thanks she gets? WHITEWASH!!!!!
Who the H____ is running things down there? The vice-president of the Hell’s Angels?
They call what he did “Running a Torture Chamber”
Question? How do you RUN a Torture Chamber?????? Charge people at the door?
Ms. Leslie is a VICTIM in this case. Just because a serial killer keeps a woman around a few months, even if he yelled at her, doesn’t mean that it’s less of a crime. Afterall,
all you investigators down there know that they kill when they want to kill. It could be every week or it could be every 5 years. Get Real!!!!!
I suppose the press want all the citizens of San Francisco to think that a woman voluntarily allows someone to break every bone in her body because she loves her man so much.
Get Real!!!!!!
Last time I checked, women, especially in San Francisco were well aware of the ones that hunt them down by day and night. That’s why we date someone for a period of time before taking them home to meet the family… especially
our nine-year old sons.
San Francisco, where’s your conscience??????????????
Neighbors, who didn’t want to identify themselves for fear of retaliation, say that he yelled at his girlfriends all the time so WHERE ARE THEY????
Leslie Lamb and those like her say, “Hogwash”
Comment by Patti | October 15, 2006
OAKLAND: You better get back with the neighbors and show them a few pictures of the missing. Since he had so many girlfriends (which I’m sure he did as most women prefer the strong, manly types; even tho they are a pain in the a..)
you’d better get back to them before they forget…. and just in case you’re wondering I like the strong, manly types with a conscience……………… and a heart.
NO HOG FOR ME!!!!!!!!
Comment by Patti | October 15, 2006
You know what? I’ve had it!!!
First they start off with this play on her name “silence of the Lambs,” and now they want to drag her through the mud with the likes of him??? How powerful are these people in the second rated City of Sin???
They want to play games with headlines? Well how’s this one?
WOMAN TALKS PSYCHOPATH INTO RELEASING HER AND SAVES THE LIVES OF MANY
or
HEAVEN’S ANGELS PROVE MORE POWERFUL THAN HELL’S ANGELS
I mean, really:
MAN GETS ARRESTED FOR RUNNING TORTURE CHAMBER
like it’s some kind of a ferris wheel at Disneyland….
Comment by Patti | October 15, 2006
The friends of Ms. Leslie Lamb have established a memorial fund for her son, Justin:
Justin Memorial Fund
Sierra Central Credit Union
559 Sutton Way
Grass Valley, California
For information: Sierra Central - 477-2982
Our thoughts, prayers and condolences to Ms. Leslie’s friends and family. Stay strong.
Comment by Patti | October 15, 2006
Okay.
Here’s the scoop. I have been busy looking at what other news agencies are reporting on this stuff.
First of all, I want you all to know that I don’t know Mr. Stefenson at all. I have never seen him before and until yesterday, have not done any research on this case.
I do not live in San Francisco and have no first-hand knowledge of the sexual deprivaties that they have going on there. I looked at his picture and you have read what I got from him and the victim, Ms. Lamb.
This man is a demon. He is a mass-murderer. I hope that there are alot of people that had been his victims speaking out in San Francisco because we really need to put an end to the Mr. Earls in this world.
Please take a look at this information that has been compiled by the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. regarding non-monkey business that Mr. Earl has been involved with:
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/14321
Or if you can, see:
http://www.scrippsnews.com/taxonomy/term/67
I don’t want to scare the family of Ms. Lamb, but if I were you, I’d be careful. These people are ruthless and very evil. Life means nothing to them. So be strong, but be careful.
Ms. Lamb did not die in some ritual. She was killed by only one. She is resting in peace knowing that you have her. She wanted to go home to you so bad. She loves you all and she always will.
Don’t let these people drag you or your loved ones through the mud. Ignore much of what they say as they do not know the whole story and they will forget, all too soon, about the victims in this case.
I told you she saved the lives of many.
Comment by Patti | October 17, 2006
Okay. So you’re still here. So you want to hear more?!?!?!
You’d better brace yourself:
Ms. Leslie (I will call her that for I am sure that as I am sure that Lamb is not her real name) was a friend of Mr. Earl. While she was a woman of middle age, she thought and acted more like a young person. These are the things that she wants you to know.
First, she is not perfect… she was always a Daddy’s girl and it was always so important that she feel accepted. She
walked a little on the wild side and, though, she may have had a good time with those that did drugs, she did not have an addictive personality. For those that will want to look into her personal life, she did only what was expected of her. She especially loved to please HER man, although they could get a little wild sometimes, it was always done in fun. The truth of the matter is that she was both jealous and possessive of her man.
I’m not getting into any of the “nasty” details because as she said, “she did nothing that wasn’t expected of her.”
Mr. Earl was controlling, and while he wanted someone to love, love for him was illusive. He had a very difficult getting along with people. He was selfish and self-consumed. Besides, love had never quite worked for him; so they had a “friendship”.
She is very angry about the neighbors, as she said that he always talked loud. She never thought that the neighbors thought that she was being abused, for in her mind, she wasn’t. She doesn’t want them to think that of her.
The night of the death of Ms. Leslie started off with a phone call. Mr. Earl had said that he was having a few friends over and that he wanted her to come over and cook them something to eat.
She had always been there everytime he called, for deep inside, she loved him; or atleast thought she did. The truth about that is that Ms. Leslie was emotionally in need of someone to hold her. Mr. Earl had been that for her. She could fake the fun of sex and act like she enjoyed the things that you never talk about with your mother, but it was the holding that she loved. She especially loved the weight of his arm over her body while he slept. There are very deep emotional scars that Ms. Leslie is now over, that kept her going back to this man. He was her “Big, Teddy Bear.”
But things were going bad. There was a rat and noone knew who it was. Mr. Earl had the most to lose. In his mind, there were cops everywhere; or atleast, in places that they did not belong; and he suspected the person closest to him.
Besides, he hasn’t trusted women in a very long time and he was especially upset that Leslie was making him out to be a fool.
There were three men there. When she pulled up she went to get some stuff out of the car and Mr. Earl came out and grabbed her and when she asked what’s wrong, he gave her a push and said, “Just get in the House!” (That’s what she believes the neighbors may have heard.)
I am not sure how she got into the basement, but it was not about fun or games. Mr. Earl was very angry. He wanted to know who she had talked to. After numerous blows to the body and the head he finally started hitting her in the face. They threatened her that they (and it is Mr. Earl saying this), “we are going to put you in the meat grinder and no on will ever find you!”
I’m not sure why and I’m not sure how, but in the end, it was only him and her. She had been lowered and she was on the floor in excruciating pain. At the beginning she had told him that she had not talked to anybody. She had tried to convince him but he didn’t believe it. She turns to him and in a whisper she asks him, “please don’t do this.” When she said that, spray of blood splattered from her mouth and it got on him. She had a look of fear on her face as she was sure that he would get mad and hit her. But he cried. Every tooth in her mouth was either knocked out or broken off. And that was what made him want to save her. That sweet, sweet smile was gone. And it wasn’t until he got her on the floor that he realized it.
This is the stuff that I have had to live with for the past week. I cry, inside and out, everytime I think of her. He was a heartless bastard that would’ve very well put her in the meat grinder or whatever it is that they do to make someone totally disappear. And it was her fear of disappearing without her family knowing what happened to her that kept her holding on, for way too long, for most of us to even comprehend.
So you know what? I am not going to care about anything Joe Public or anyone says… this woman was an angel. In this world angels are never perfect, but if a person is to be judged, let them be judged when they are at their worst; not while they are having a good time.
The beating deaths of the other two were not nearly as bad as that of Ms. Leslie. I told you that I thought that Mr. Earl had a thirst for murder after he had killed Mr. Leslie
but in reality, he had lost his zeal and quickly got it over with concerning the other two. At this point, he was doing more, “damage control” as he just wanted it to be over with. Without any witnesses. I don’t know whether it was the murder of Ms. Leslie or the business that he was trying to protect, perhaps both. But he is responsible for the other two murders.
Ms. Leslie drowned in her own blood. In the car, on the way to the hospital, she nearly fell asleep. Upon getting there, she was aroused and once she felt safe enough, she died.
So now you know. I hope that anything that I said is not hurtful or cruel in anyone’s eyes as I truly do not mean to hurt anyone. I only want justice for Leslie. She didn’t do anything mean or hurtful to anyone, she “acted” only as was “required” of her. Earl never abused her, at least not in her eyes, until that night.
Now we need to let Leslie rest. Please, just let her rest.
And if there is anything said about this woman, let it be that she loved her family. Let it be that she was a hero.
There is nothing anyone can do for her, now; other than respect her.
Comment by Patti | October 17, 2006
Oh…… Ms. Leslie, how could ANYONE help but to love you.
I don’t care whether she was up or down in age, Ms. Leslie
was always just right. Too bad there aren’t more like her.
Comment by Patti | October 19, 2006
Is what you described the truth? Why do you say that about her teeth being knocked out?
Comment by kristi | October 20, 2006
Patti, how do you REALLY know this?
Sounds like you were at the coolidge house yourself?
Comment by Missunderstood | October 20, 2006
Because the very thing that all her friends loved about her in the end was what saved her from being just another missing person that is never found.
I don’t care for the gruesome details but her family deserves to know the truth. The matter of her death is not nearly as important as the truth.
I have already told you the truth. Whether Leslie knew the truth about her lover, we will never know; but because of her strength and because of her love, we will find out.
Then, too, sometimes you have to reveal part of the truth to get to the rest. Yes, its the truth. There are people that have sexual slaves; but more importantly, there are those that are a part of transporting them. Meet Earl.
America, WAKE UP!!!!
Comment by Patti | October 20, 2006
OK Patti!
you seem to know SO much!!
Were you ACTUALLY there??
You seem to know alot of details that the media has not covered?????????????????????
Well, were you at Mr. Earls while this was going down?
how do you claim to know so much????
Comment by Missunderstood | October 20, 2006
You know she was my friend but she was a pain in my ass too, but i know that she had noidea how many people out here loved and cared and will miss her terribly. we all were( i’m refering to her true everyday friends) so shocked to hear of her murder. and i dont know who you are Patti but i’d like to sit down and talk to you one on one. For the reason that we are in regular contact with les’s mother and there are conflicting statements as to what the facts are. I didnt always like les but she was my friend no matter how angry shed be at me for being the new woman in the life of her most recent ex.After about 3 months or so i finally had enough of her hating on me so i stepped up to the plate and made her deal with me and her feelings and talk to me about why she was so angry. now in telling you all this i mean to eexpress that no matter how obnoxious or loud or insistant or even hateful that she could sometimes be( im just telling truth and anyone who REALLY knew her knows this) we always found a way to get through to her or if nothing else we found a way to be friends. she didnt deserve to die and i know that earl will “reap the whirlwind” like he deserves for taking away a truelly good soul that brout all of us so many laughs and good times. i hope that these woman that you hurt earl distort your mind and haunt you for the rest of your petty existance .Your no God, who are you to take her from us?! she’d talk to me about earl and when they first hooked up she sought me out specificlly because i too had been with a biker of sorts and had some insight to the lifestyle and expectations . i warned her and a saved her from that house several times. it kills me inside to know that she kept going back even though he’d hurt her. screw you earl and if there is anyone out there who can help us ensure that this demon gets whats coming please contact the oakland p.d. . thank you Ciao bella we’ll miss you R.I.P
Comment by CIAO BELLA 2 | October 20, 2006
What. Who are you and where do you get what you think are facts?
Comment by kristi | October 20, 2006
Wait !!!!
I think I hear a peep. Perhaps it is a hoot. Excuse me?
Did I hear something??
Perhaps you have some facts???
Comment by Patti | October 20, 2006
Take your time…..
Don’t tell me you’re afraid of the
BOOGYMAN…???
Oh well, I guess I won’t give a hoot
but I swear I heard a HOOT….
Hello, Hello…You need to Speak up!
Comment by Patti | October 21, 2006
Kristi…..
This man is truly a demon. I told you
that from the beginning. He is going
to try to hurt you and Ms. Lamb’s family
in any and every way he can. I am sure
that it is in his plan to act as crazy
as possible to get out of being held
responsible. Don’t let him make you or
Ms. Leslie’s family cry. You need to see
through him. See him as the despicable
human being that he is; and don’t give him
the satisfaction of hurting you.
He is truly an animal… that’s why I say
that Leslie is very special. Just think
about how many more people he would have
killed had Ms. Leslie not “touched” him.
There is some information on those that have
had the rare experience of talking a psycho-
path “out” of killing them; but like I said,
that’s rare. These people are untouchable.
They have no heart. So just because Ms. Leslie
could reach him and make him express sorrow,
don’t think, for a second, that he is feeling
that now.
Now: He’s in jail and will remain there for the
rest of his life. He is going to do any, and
every, thing that he can to beat this rap. He is
not going to be kind, that’s not part of his
personality. Besides, he’s mad!!! No one would
act like he does, would they???
The thing that I worry about is that the jury
is going to view this case as a domestic violence
case. Don’t laugh. Right now, he’s trying to get
out of a trial for being unfit to stand trial. He’s
going to act crazier than a mad cow.
Once he goes to trial, watch out. He is either
going to present Ms. Leslie as his girlfriend that
voluntarily participated in his torture games
(which we know she didn’t) or he is going to try
to assassinate her character with lies. He may
even try to get friends to help him… and don’t
fool yourself, he does have friends… like him.
So please, stay strong.
One other thing… stay in close contact with the
prosecutor. He will be able to let you know if
a hearing is important for you to attend, or not.
There is no sense in going to hearings unless they
are necessary. The only reason I say that is that
you all have been through alot. And you really
need time to heal… that won’t be possible with
him tearing your hearts out each time you see him.
Besides, he will keep you abreast of where the
investigation and the defense is heading and you’ll
be better prepared to handle Mr. Earl.
Keep your heads up. If you need to, rely on Ms.
Leslie for your strength and remember, you all
need justice. She has made it possible for this
monster to get caught and now its up to us to
finish him off.
Stay strong.
I’m going to see if I can get something that will
help you.
Comment by Patti | October 22, 2006
One other thing… talk to the
District Attorney’s office to
see if they know of some counsel-
ing that is available to victims
of violent crimes. It may not be
a bad idea to get Ms. Leslie’s son,
Justin, into one of these programs;
or any family member that feels that
they need it.
If you have concerns, talk to him.
He has dealt with people like Mr. Earl
many times before. Don’t be afraid;
remember Mr. Earl WANTS to scare you
because that makes him feel that he
is in power of you. Ignore him and
you’ll really hurt him.
Comment by Patti | October 22, 2006
Kristi:
The woman that was there is commissary.
She’s one of them, so called woman, that
wait and wait for what they think is the
love of their life; in this case, Mr.
Earl, to change his ways and realize that
she is the one that truly loves him.
What man, behind bars, doesn’t light up
when that ace in the hole appears. He
never loved her; in fact, he couldn’t stand
her. He just used her. Hopefully, she was
sickened by his antics in the courtroom and
will kick HIM to the curb.
If not, BEWARE of her… If she doesn’t see
him for what he really is, she is a sitting
duck.
Here is one thing that I found: the latest
and greatest in research on guys like Mr. Earl.
I’m having a hard time finding anything on
how to survive an attack against a psychopath,
as it is TRULY quite rare.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1524500.stm
There are numerous writings on pschyopaths on
the internet, but I thought that this one really
would hit home. Remember, he is not like us.
I am trying to keep my mind clear of the media.
But, the DNA tests on the two European women is
especially important to me. If you hear any-
thing, please let me know. I am not in San Francisco,
or Oakland, or California for that matter. I am not
abreast on what is going on there, or privy to
information on this case. I know simply because, I
know.
Hang in there.
Comment by Patti | October 23, 2006
I do want to tell you; I am not a spiritist. I
am not in touch with Leslie, as she is asleep.
She is at rest and shall live forever in the
hearts and minds of those that loved her.
I am a reader of the living.
It is Mr. Earl’s thoughts that I am reading and
it is only through him that I know what happened
with Ms. Leslie. And… it is only through him
that I know that he was involved in the kidnap,
transportation, enslavement and, in some cases,
murder of innocent women and children.
Comment by Patti | October 23, 2006
Miss Ciao Bella:
I am so sorry for your pain. Whatever problems that
the two of you had is over. Ms. Leslie wouldn’t want
you to fret over that anymore. She is sorry for so
many things; but they are gone now.
As far as the conflicting stories, I don’t know exactly
what you mean. But if there are stories told by Mr.
Earl’s friends, don’t believe them. There may be parts
based on facts, but they are distorted.
Ms. Leslie wasn’t perfect. She did some things under the
control of Mr. Earl that were not “her”. They will try to
use those things to hurt you. Mr. Earls friends knew a
Leslie that was much different than the one that we know.
And to answer MISSUNDERSTOOD’s question: No, I wasn’t
there. If I had of been, I would have tried to stop it.
And I would be dead, and missing, never to be recovered.
So get that thought out of your head.
I want to apologize. When I write something on this page,
it goes straight through. I was not aware that you had
posted anything to this site until this morning. The
“hoot” comment was meant for Ms. Kristi.
It is nearly impossible for me to sit down with you one
on one as I live very far away. To tell you the truth,
I am leary of meeting anyone involved with this case;
as you should be. I can’t stress enough how dangerous
these people are.
Can you tell me if the DNA tests have been completed?
The read I get is that Mr. Earl was involved in bigger
and better things than just going around killing his
current or ex-girlfriends. Mr. Earl was scared because
of an investigation that was going on. He thought that
Ms. Leslie had told someone about him. And I am quite
sure that he had a hand in 1) disposing the body of Nina
and 2) the murder of Asha. All of which had more to do
with business than pleasure.
In fact, the basement WAS his business and Ms. Leslie had
nothing to do with it. She was just having a good time.
Please be careful. Don’t meet with anyone that you don’t
know. If there is something that you need to share with
me about conflicting stories, then tell me.
But in the meantime, let me tell you. Ms. Asha was
involved in some very dirty business that she left,
when she left her ex. I believe that he was a biker
as well. These people were AFRAID that their secrets
had been revealed. Secrets that I believe were uncovered
during the investigation that took place in Colorado
having to do with buying sexual slaves over the internet.
Ms. Asha was no longer involved with the business, but
when the heat came down; they suspected Ms. Leslie, Ms.
Nina, and then Ms. Asha.
I don’t know if there is anyway to connect these three
other than through the business that their men were
involved in. However, I AM sure that the men were
“friends”, as well.
The investigation was as a result of the recovery of a
computer that had valuable information about sites that
are set up to purchase human beings. Mr. Earl is an
idiot and thought that Ms. Lamb either was a policewoman,
or an informant. She was at the wrong place at the wrong
“time”.
Like I said, Mr. Earl loved her, as best a psychopath can.
He wanted to believe the dream of the house with the white
picket fence. He really did. He wanted to live a normal
life and have children, but this thing came down way too
fast for him and he wasn’t about to go to jail, again.
Now, please, let me know what the conflicting facts are.
Comment by Patti | October 23, 2006
Patti,
Was Earl’s name included in that investigation in Colorado?
Comment by kristi | October 23, 2006
No… it had more to do with the sites themselves.
They traced the sites to the person that set them
up and that was not Mr. Earl. I believe that it
may have been Mr. Reiser.
Comment by Patti | October 23, 2006
I’m going to tell you the reading that I got from Ms. Nina:
I believe that she was a part of the business. I believe
that she helped in the exploitation of the women that come
here from Russia. She may have presented herself as a
helping hand, as she is a doctor; but she knew about the
business and was an integral part of it. I also believe
that she was responsible for getting drugs that were used
to sedate their victims, most of which ended up in whore
houses in both Northern and Southern California.
Now, please, just wait until the DNA is processed.
Comment by Patti | October 23, 2006
Question: What is the area around 15th and Castro like???
Comment by Patti | October 23, 2006
I thought about it all night. The way I know is simply
that I look at the pictures. I came very close to death
as a result of an attempted murder. Since then, I have
a sixth sense. I can look at pictures, especially
booking photos and read the people. That’s what I mean
about “read”. I don’t have a crystal ball, I don’t speak
to the dead; I simply observe and prompt questions.
To me there is something immoral about contacting the dead.
It’s like trying to capture the wind; once it’s captured,
it’s not wind anymore.
Ms. Leslie was always like the wind. She was a hero…
she was an angel… but most of all, she was a human being.
So forgive her, forgive yourselves and come to realize that
it isn’t important, those short moments in time; but rather
it’s the silent, quiet times that you spent together that
she will never forget. So laugh, laugh hardy, as that is
what causes the wind; and promise yourselves that this is
a quiet time and you will cherish it forever.
Comment by Patti | October 24, 2006
Okay. Ciao Bella’s:
This is a must read. While you read, I want you to look at
it from the torturer’s point of view. You need to educate
yourself and tell others. Tell the Police.
http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/torturepsychology.html
I also want you to read up on this man that had kidnapped
LITTLE GIRLS !!!!!! in Scotland. They run their legal
system much different than ours. It is horrifying… how
a person can make you believe ANYTHING!?!?!?!
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=662&id=524202004
How horrifying that a person, usually young girls would
be kidnapped and tortured…….MADE to love HIM…..
This what Earl did.
Who would be making methamphenimines (especially, at his
age) other than one who likes to take it and sell it..??
What does it do to a person????
In Denver, there was a man that lived in a neighborhood that
had a guy that loved speed and as a teenager;
we used to walk around the block to avoid him. He was paranoid like a you know what…
he’d even shoot at people… come to think of it,…… EVEN THE POLICE AVOIDED HIM.!?!!?!?!?!?
That’s how unnervey this guy was !!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?
girls….girls….girls…..girls……girls…….girls…
You have to, at sometime, look at him and wonder… what is
it that they see in him ????… He’s a big man, but he’s
horribly nasty in everything he does. a METH HEAD. He’s
got all these RICH friends and yet he has nothing… why?
Because he doesn’t care about the side effects of the drug
that is a major part of his life. Besides, they are
Russians, not American…..????!!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!
READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ
The only thing that saves us is faith, truth, knowlege and
conscience.
I did read the news today:
I read that the “ever-so famous” MR. REISER has hired
himself Daniel Horowitz !?!?!?!?!?!?
Now THAT’S shocking !!!!! to come out with a BIG GUN like
that right out of the old shoot…… the Police must
really be on to something !!!!
HE MUST HAVE A LOT TO HIDE.
Hopefully they’re using that adrenalen trick (!) Mr. Earl
would do ANYTHING for a shot like that……… LOOSER
Geeeeeee…….. I wonder who’s blood they found where???
Signing off:
Peace.
Comment by Patti | October 24, 2006
Hey!!!!! Wake Up!!!!!!!!!!!!
It looks like you guys are sleeping on the job.
Am I missing something?????? I’ll bet it’s that
Radio Show ……………………………….
Comment by Patti | October 25, 2006
Okay Here’s the Scoop:
The following is a site that describes in detail (maybe too
much) the power of torture:
http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/torturepsychology.html
And here is one about a fairly recent case in Scotland, in
which a defendent was found guilty. Their justice system
is alot different from ours. They prooved HOW he did it:
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=662&id514202004
Like Earl, he was a boogeyman….
Comment by Patti | October 25, 2006
Okay, I seem to be having a bit of a problem with my computer. Either that or I am being censorred.
But I will try again…..
There is a really good story about the power of torture in
Scotland. There was this man, a psychopath, that kidnapped
several young girls. He tortured them repeatedly, while
convincing them that he was the “good guy” and that he was
the only one that truly cared for them. They were kept in
a cellar and dependent on him for their food and water; as
well as any other necessity of life.
He did everything he wanted to them, including sexually
assulting them…. and when he was caught…they kissed him
good-bye.
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=662&id=514202004
The reason that I think that it is important for you to
know this is because I realize how totally crazy I must
sound… but these things really DO happen. The Scotsman
repeats over and over that he is only a fish in a sea of
men just like him. He tells the court that the girls were
lucky that he had them instead of someone much worse.
This is important because this is HOW a person gains enough
control over someone to be able to make them do just about
anything.
Now just imagine, you’re a Russian, straight off the ship;
that doesn’t know anybody. And you are thrown down into
this hole…
You get the point.
Comment by Patti | October 25, 2006
PATTI !!!
I would LOVE to communicate with you other than this site..
I understand your fear, and I am FACSINATED with your views, some are so true, and yet SO off! SOOO much you claim that has nothing to do with the REALITY of Mr.Earls personality, the white picket fence, children, he has children!!
Just was totally uninvolved as MOST loser men are!
Mr.Earl was NOT smart enough to be so on top of this transportation of slave women!
YOU are giving him WAY TOO much credit !! As i said, alot is true, yet so off!
If you only knew how unintelligent he is!! Very interesting about the police informant info you put out there? How you say he thought Leslie was an informant! Very interesting!
I believe he thought that about ALOT of people, like I said before, were not dealing with an intelligent mind here!
Comment by missunderstood | October 25, 2006
How do you know that he didn’t say those things to her???
I want to know what I have that is right….. please
tell me.
There are alot of things that I have said about Mr. Earl
that you have no idea of because when I get to the nitty
gritty, they censor me.
I can tell you about Earl….
He was the type that even the police would avoid. He was a
drug-dealing pimp that thought that the whole world
evolved around him. He may not have been smart, but he
was street smart and that’s the worse kind…!.!.!.!!!!!
I just have a great deal of respect for the family because
I didn’t want anyone to blame her for the guy that she
got herself hooked up with.
I know that they met at a bar… a fun bar… but like
I said, Mr. Earl was not just another guy.
What???? you want me to portray Mr. Earl as a saint??
How about a simple saint that killed people for a living???
I hate Mr. Earl and don’t you forget it….!!!!…!!!!
I am very, very privy about how intelligent he is.
What…????? You think he’s stupid….?????
Well, it’s true that he doesn’t have alot of possessions,
but he did have the most important possession in this
case, didn’t he????
The only reason that he didn’t have possessions was because
he’d rather lay around and get high with his girls and do
nothing all day. Look at the ones he’s associated with?
I would say that all his money either went up in smoke,
up his nose or in his veins.
Dream on, Ms. Missunderstood ……
What????? Are all murderer’s retarded in your mind?????
And about the web site: Yes, I spoke it. Too bad there aren’t more that do. What if I were right about EVERYTHING???
Isn’t it my right (or better yet)
isn’t it my DUTY to stand up and
speak against what I think is wrong???
Have you looked at the effects of TORTURE on a human being?
Well, where shall we begin? How about it causes your personality to blast into several hundred pieces….
Or how about it causes you to give your trust, your faith
and your life into someone’s hands…..
Or how about it causes you to become a human slave that is
so afraid of getting hurt that you will do almost anything
Why doesn’t anyone want to realize that you don’t have
to be smart to do what Mr. Earl has done. All you have to be is ruthless … and ruthless is every bit of what he was.
OHHHHHHHH!!!!!! One more question::::::
If they were not involved, what was she doing at his house
all night????
And what were her friends saving her from?????
I suppose you are going to tell me that she was stalking
him?????????????
That makes me sick …… Maybe we’re all WAY far off!!!
I don’t know you. But I would like to say that I knew, when
I wrote it, that Mr. Earl had kids; it was Leslie that wanted that. And I believe that it was clearly stated as
such.
I was rather hoping that Mr. Horowitz would give CNN a big
sock in the nose …..
So tell me, was I wrong about that too??????
And that informant stuff you talk about ????????
No…. I am not an informant, but I will tell on you if
you’re bad. I believe in the police…. they are the
big ol’ boys that are supposed to protect us against
people like this. So What ?!?!?!?!?!?
Was THAT where I was SOOOOO wrong ?!?!?!?!?!?
I’ll have you know that site sat there for weeks before
I ever went on it…..WHAT’S YOUR POINT???????????
ARE YOU THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN CENSORRING ME ???????????
Comment by Patti | October 26, 2006
WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THE BASEMENT ?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
Comment by Patti | October 26, 2006
Yep…. you’re right about the informant business…..
Mr. Earl did and does think that about people. I would
compare him against a speed-freak that lived in a neigh-
bothood of a friend… in CRYSTAL CITY…
He’d shoot at people all the time!!!!!………..
In fact, we would walk
around the block to avoid him;
as he may be on a
paranoid~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~trip
In fact, I believe the police even
avoided him.!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone knows what speed freaks are
like~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That’s a given;
and that’s why i stay away from them.
Comment by Patti | October 26, 2006
But who do you think does all that dope with him,
and how long before they get to go outside?
What fun it would be to ride on a motorcycle in
America.
Or let me guess, you think that he had the basement
strictly for pleasure??????!!!!! I wonder, how much
pleasure could one person stand??????
Nope…. Mr. Earl is a monster to me. I believe it is
much easier on a person like him to kidnap his victims,
lock them in his basement and terrorize them…that’s
what I think he did. And who better than Mr. Earl, with
all his drugs and all his power to turn these poor, lost
souls into mincemeat if they WEREN’T good. As in the REAL
pimp fashion.
GIRLS……GIRLS……..GIRLS……GIRLS……GIRLS…….
That’s what Mr. Earl liked. Poor, defenseless girls that
were far toooooo far away from home to run. Besides, he
became their friends; the more they got addicted to his
drugs. I would even go as far as to say that, stupid,
Mr. Earl trained them to be used by those with many
possessions…. perhaps in the Chinese side of town.
Does that take a lot of brains.??? Stay in bed all day,
using the ones that are to be sent to the touch-feely
rooms.?!?!?!? Making sure that they know everything they
will need to know….to ensure that you make loads of money
off of their suffering.???…
Last time I checked…those people have NO SENSE!!!!
I don’t care what anybody says, I know a demon when I see
him… and this man is a demon.
And the getting high part????? Who else, OTHER than an
idiot would waste their mind on drugs LIKE a total idiot
that cares very little about himself… much less anyone
else?
I’d love to join you but I don’t go where there are cookies.
So, Please, tell me am I right or am I wrong. I can take
it, as I am quite simply, a writer… a reader… and a
writer.
Was it all my imagination???????????????????????????????????
Comment by Patti | October 26, 2006
MissUnderstood:
I want to apologize. I did not mean to act so rash. It
sorta hurts me to hear someone talk about how stupid a
person is; especially when they have committed a crime
such as this one. Because if you call him stupid, it
insinuates that those that fall victim to him, are even
more stupid.
I have had it with the press. I’m not sure about what is
going on in San Francisco, but it seems as though Ms. Leslie
has gone from being a secret lover, to a girlfriend and now
an ex-girlfriend; all within a week. Only Ms. Leslie knows
for sure why she was with him. But, I know one thing for
sure… she was….. a victim. I guess that has to be
the bottom line.
I will be the first to say, on ANY record, that the victim
is ALWAYS innocent. The perpetrator may be anyone. He may
be the boogeyman that snatches you out of the night; or he
could be a priest that seduces your faith in all the things
that you were raised to believe. It makes no difference to
me. The retarded, the average, above average or the
geniouses of this world don’t need an excuse to snub you
out; if that’s what they truly want to do.
The point of me putting up the two sites; one of which was
a site that specifically had to do with the power of
torture, was so the victims could understand that this is a
tool with which a deranged person strips you of your
security and leaves you defenseless against him….
Torturing is not hard to do. It doesn’t take a genious to
do that. Do you actually think that the Belgium Monster was
a smart man???????? Last time I checked, smart men had
lovely wives with lovely children and lived in the burbs.
Not on skid row, with a needle in his arm, and a torture
chamber in his basement. There was never a moment in my
mind that Mr. Earl was a good OR smart man.
But I beg to differ with you on the point that you make when
you say that Mr. Earl wasn’t smart ENOUGH. It doesn’t take
intelligence to kidnap someone… only the nerve. It
doesn’t take a smart man to beat someone… only the
opportunity.
I very well may have misunderstood you. And I very well
may have too vivid an imagination. But there are just too
many things that I have heard, from California in
particular. I wouldn’t put it past him or the others
that I believe are involved. Because, afterall, the world
is made up of alot of sick people. Sick people and greed.
Now that’s a deadly combination. Sick people and greed.
I’ve heard, as we probably all have, that there are those
that would sell their own mothers into prostitution for
that next fix. Well, gee…. I wonder where Mr. Earl got
all his money from ? Could it be possible that he may have
been involved in the OLDEST profession there is??? I may
be naive, but I say yes.
Peace be with you all… may all your dreams be bright…
but please, always remember, that there are those out there
that want only the worst for you… and THOSE are the ones
that are the true demons.
There is no good in Mr. Earl. There is no good in anything
that even remotely resembles a torture chamber and Leslie
Lamb is proof of that.
MissUnderstood, I beg for your forgiveness.
Is it not sick to have a torture chamber in your basement,
or is it to be considered just another completed fantasy
in the mind of a perfectly sane retarded person? Or a
perfectly sane drug addict? Or is the world of torture
much like everything else in this world, a business ran
for profit?
Do we all just want to sit in front of our televisions
pretending that we know all this stuff about sex slaves,
but fail to see it when it slaps us in the face? I don’t
know about you, but I am a realist. When I see it, I
recognize it, simply for what it is. Who am I to judge
how smart a person has to be to be a monster. That is
certainly one question that I am unable to answer.
But one thing is for sure:
This man was a monster to Ms. Leslie and I’m not going to
cover my eyes, shut my ears OR close my mouth about it.
If there is a boogeyman out there, I suggest we uncover his
sins and see them for what they really are.
Unlike many in San Francisco that have heard that this is
a problem that has plagued their city for years and then
pretend that it doesn’t exist when you finally find proof
of it; I am going to see it, write about it and warn others
that this is not a safe world we live in. Afterall, this
very well may be where all our missing end up… only the
opposite; with a two-bit whore who rides a motorcycle in
Russia.
Are you afraid of the Hell’s Angels? I think everybody’s
answer should be yes. Especially when you consider that
organized gangs, like them, run most of the cat houses in
this country as well as abroad. And if you don’t think that
cat houses are ran by organized criminals, check out what
has gone on for decades. First it was the mafia that wanted
to run the business. Then it was the drug lords. And now,
with the invention of the computer and the web sites that
are easily accessible in our homes, it is the latest in
white collar crime. But someone has to deal with the day
to day part of the business… terrorizing them to keep
them in their place. Unfortunately, that has always been
the case; and an integral part of running the business as
was drug addiction.
If I’m wrong, proove it…………………………….
San Franciso the city of sin… where better to have our sex slave industry.
Any one of us could have been Ms. Leslie……………..
Comment by Patti | October 26, 2006
First off, im not here to debate this anymore.
Bikers are overly stereo-typed, Mr.Earl was NO biker!
A true biker is someone that has miles under their seat on the road, in the wind.
Not afraid of the motorcycle CLUB as you stereo type a GANG!
Just because one may be related to one does NOT make them a biker.
QUIT with that already will you please?
Karma will get the demon in this matter, as well as his conscience!
He can smile and blow kisses at the victims family in court all he wants, because deep inside he is in fear of his life! He fears being locked up for the rest of his life.
That is his defense mechanism, the smiling. To throw off people, to get a reaction…
He got it didn’t he?! was written in the press! How it affected the victims family in a negative manner.
He must have a consciense! drove the victim to the hospital!
For that, his conscience will haunt him, he will be the demon he is locked up in the state penn for the rest of his life.
Done with this matter….
Forgive you? There is nothing to forgive! You cannot jolt me…
You are a realist as I, for that I understand.
Why are you so inclined to write so much about a matter so far away from you? All this for the victims family and others?
Do you do this as a hobbie? Searching websites for horrible crimes so you can get your 6th sense kicked in and write about what you think from looking at photographs of victims and their demons? There are thousands of cases a week!
How do you MAKE the time?
You are right, and VERY wrong about alot in my opinion.
PROVE IT!?
Not on a national website!
Communicating this far with you on this website is more than I wanted…..
Comment by missunderstood | October 26, 2006
Excuse Me????!!!! Are you saying that the Hell’s Angels
are not a gang???? Obviously, you have not spent any
time on the west coast, or outside your little web of
know-nothing monkeys. Look, I’m not interested in debating
that with you; as you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I just wish that you would have more to offer
than, simply, a jest of a comment; as you are usually used
to posing. But, gee, that seems to be the longest comment
that you have offerred ANYBODY in months!!!!!!
Do you own this site???? You seem to find it necessary to
follow me around explaining what this site is all about.
And, as usual, you have nothing to offer me, or anyone, in
the way of information. You are not telling us anything that we don’t already know.
I really don’t expect a response from you as you have already made it clear that you have communicated more than
you care to, and for that I’m grateful. Is that why you
call yourself misunderstood??? As I don’t only misunderstan
you, but I also disagree with you.
This site is for the generation of thought. This site is
for the benefit of the families of the missing, that are
all-too-aware of people like Earl. You want to simply
lock him up and let karma take care of him??? What about
the others??? Aren’t you the least bit interested in finding out about the numerous others that Mr. Earl didn’t
take to the hospital??? And if you think that people get
to that information by sitting on their a’s doing nothing,
being totally uninvolved; you are not just misunderstood,
you are also misinformed.
This site is not only for the benefit of the Lambs, but
also for the countless others who’s loved ones are still
missing. Exposing those like Mr. Earl, for what they
really are, is for the benefit of all. And to think that
you want to argue about whether Mr. Earl rode a motorcycle?
What kind of trash is that??? Who, on God’s earth, cares?
Do you know Mr. Earl??? I certainly don’t, nor do I care to
know him. My only interest in this case is that it very-
well may be the biggest case, having to do with the
exploitation of human beings, in history. It very well may
be the biggest peek that we have had into this world of the
underground. And to think that you want to simply flush
it down the toilet and forget it. What is wrong with you?? Do you really care or is this just a show for you and those like you???
Please, take the time, to atleast look at the name of the
site that you are addressing: The missing and EXPLOITED.
Maybe you need to look up that word, exploited, and find
out what is REALLY being discussed here.
Comment by Patti | October 27, 2006
Perhaps Ms. Missunderstood needs to join the defense team??
Comment by Patti | October 27, 2006
And just for those that do not consider the Hell’s Angels
a threat, read about what they have done in Canada. Read
about what they are involved with in the Netherlands.
Perhaps we have stumbled onto the biggest element in the inter-national, free-trade business of Human Trafficing.
Read about the concerns of those in Russia, who’s girls
that are offerred good jobs in the United States are
coming up missing, never to be heard from again.
Read about the Hell’s Angels and how they are linked to
the biggest operations of prostitution, money-laundering
and drug-trafficing markets in the WORLD.
Read about the Hell’s Angels obtaining heat-guided missiles and ask yourself, why.
Then come talk to me.
Comment by Patti | October 27, 2006
save it for a hallmark card
Comment by PATTI get a LIFE | October 27, 2006
Patti ? I mean Tom, nice alias there tom!
Stop with your ranting.
Write a book, tell someone who really cares.
patti? tom your funny!
________
SM: Tom?
Comment by Mark | October 27, 2006
Did you hear me?????
a peek:
Do we dare to look?????
I want to know.
Comment by Patti | October 27, 2006
Get this:
I write to the foundation that Berkeley has on line and they
tell ME to go to the police.
ME…….
So I think I’m gonna write them back that I expect them to
inform the police as it is their friend……..
And watch, I’ll get nothing… No thank you,
no Kiss my a…, or nothing.
What????? You waiting on some dna tests?????
I wonder, Who were the men that were with Mr. Reiser?????
Remember, two UNIDENTIFIED men who were with him when he
was arrested that they are holding???? Gee, I wonder if
these may be the ones that were there with Ms. Leslie????
maybe mr. earl is a rat, we can only hope so.
I wish I were in Hawaii. It is soooooooooooooooo
beautiful there. And the hula dances…………
it’s fun.
All this is on the low.
Comment by Patti | October 27, 2006
Did you know bars will set you up???? I’ve been in a bar
where I will go and go and go and go (you know, looking for
that one in a million) and then when someone is in town like
a professional baseball player or another professional baseball player…. they’ll pimp you.
I’ve even asked this one bouncer to take me out to my car
and told him straight up…. you ever try to pimp me again,
I’ll kill ya. And then watched him as he scrambles from
the car. I hate that!!!!!!
I guess you could say, that is where this game starts.
And believe me…. it is a game. Played over and over
again. Mr. Earl was good. This is the way he got HIS
women. The real ones…..
In fact alot of guys get their women like that. I’ve been
with some beautiful men before. White, Greek, Italian,
Puerto Rican, Indian, Black American and I’ve got to admit;
I like it.
The man from India was the most beautiful of all. He had
eyelashes to die for. He looked like an angel as he slept.
I swear!! The first time that he spent the night, all I
could do was look at him. He was georgous. He was a pro
tennis player. He was a prince. Seriously, his father was
a prince. Plus, he was also a hero. India celebrated him.
It wasn’t a pimp that night. I swear. I fell in love with
everything about him. The way he moved his mouth the way
he bit his lip and the way he looked me, straight in the
eye. He always told me that he was going to hurt me. And
he was right. I cried like a baby. He told me that the
ones he loved the most are the ones that he runs from. In
India, these very wealthy men with their beautiful daughters
had messed him all up.
Everytime I saw him, at close quarters… I told him he’d
better run. He didn’t. But, eventually, he did.
The last time I saw him, I was with this guy who’s father traveled all over the world… and he was just like him. That’s what he did. He and I were just FRIENDS, truly.
Anyway, when I went toward the bathroom, my tennis pro was
there and he grabbed me and held me close and said, “Patti,
just have fun!!!!” And that’s what I have been doing ever
since.
Well, It’s Friday night…. gotta go, go, go.
Comment by Patti | October 28, 2006
I just checked my e-mail. After telling Buck that he needs
to contact the police as Ms. Reiser is his friend, he informed me that he has done just that.
And believe it or not, he thanked me.
Hopefully, he is among the millions of men that do not approve of the death of hundreds of thousands of abducted and murdered women in this country.
That is my hope… that for as many BAD guys as there are out there, there are atleast 10 others that are nice; besides it very well may take everyone to stop the violence against women in this world.
Stand up and be counted.
Thank you, Buck.
Comment by Patti | October 28, 2006
How do you know I haven’t already written a book???? What?
Are you jealous that some of us can actually read and write?
Too bad you didn’t go to school, when teaching the arts was
expected.
I hate these kids who’s folks get them a computer and they
think that communication is something that you learn down
on Fifth Avenue on the bathroom walls. So they go through
their pitiful lives appearing intelligent by cracking their
one-liners.
Maybe the church is right… this is the last generation as
sometimes, even I get the opinion that they’re just not
WORTH saving. But then again, you get someone like Leslie
Lamb or Natalee and suddenly you are back at it again,
looking for the answers.
Leave me alone, Ms. Missunderstood. You want to understand
something? Go to school. Learn History. Maybe then you
will be able to see past that nose of yours that you insist
on putting into other people’s business. And as for your
friend Mark… been there done that! Thanks, but no thanks.
What? Are you mad that I didn’t meet with you? I’m not
here to make friends, I have plenty. I, and the many
thousands of others are here for the same reason. We want
answers. And what business is it of yours where I live??
You will never know, unless I tell you and I don’t mix
business with pleasure. So again, thanks, but NO…
You would think that women would be able to understand that
word. But Ms. Missunderstood doesn’t even comprehend the
word nor the meaning behind it.
So I will say it now, real loud so she can hear it… NO!!!
You love the way I write? You’ll have to enjoy it from
afar. You want to talk to me? I have nothing to say that
I can’t say on a national web site.
I learnt to say that word along time ago… I don’t talk to
strangers………….
Comment by Patti | October 28, 2006
I want you all…. all of you including the Lambs to understand something:
When I speak of Earl, I’m not talking about the millions of good guys out there. We are not trying to overthrow a persons right to have sex, or even to play around a little. What we want to stop are the unwanted advances that are inflicted against women in this country everyday; in several different manners. But, especially, what we want to stop are the people like Mr. Earl that take our beautiful daughters, sisters, aunts and mothers away from us.
Mr. Earl is only part of the problem. The other part of the problem is that we have waaaaay too many people that will contribute their hard-earned money into a business that is meant for only a few minutes of pleasure. But having cat houses, right there, for anyone to partake is a sin unto itself. We as a society need to change that.
Have we gotten soooo far off course that we put one man’s need for greed above all that we know is right??? Haven’t we seen, with our own eyes, the effect of XXX-rated movies and nasty magazines enough to know that it effects the minds of the Psychopathic??? If you allow flesh to be sold on your streets, then what is the worth of someone’s life??? Are we all supposed to suffer the consequences of the loss of our loved ones for a few minutes of pleasure???
Let me ask a question??? If we, as a society, knew that eating oranges caused the psychopathic to go mad, would we stop eating oranges??? Yes, we would. In fact, I believe that if we found that eating oranges caused mental illness, we would probably ban them from being produced. Would we not???
What I mean to say, is this, whether it is because we eat oranges, or whether we watch too many XXX-rated movies, or whether it is that we have cat houses in our neighborhoods, we would ALL feel the need to stop.
There was recently an article about a muslim that compared sexy dressed women to rotting meat. I didn’t comment as, in a way, I got his point. Where he was wrong, was that his comment (which was probably miscomprehended) sounded like it blamed the WOMEN for the rotten part; and I’m not sure that was what he meant. There is rotten meat. There is meat so decomposed that there are maggots all over it. But it doesn’t have to do with the women that wear the clothing, it has more to do with what we as a society allow our people to do. Women have always adorned themselves and believe me, when he gets home after making his speech, privately, he raises the veil… as we all do. But I believe the point that he was making is that we need to keep our meat as something sacred.
And I believe that it is. In fact, it was proven that it is… and yet, San Francisco is probably the only city that has not tried to legislate humanity… Why??? You go to other cities in the world, and you don’t see magazines being displayed in the front windows of bookstores that have ….. well, you get the picture. You go to your neighboring cities, and massage parlors are nearly extinct as you have them. Shower houses have been shut down for years, and yet, in San Francisco, they still exist. Aren’t you also responsible for the lives of the innocent, when the problems in your under-ground that you, as a city allow, goes awry??? I think so…
You know… you got all these educated people. Many of them knowing the difference between right and wrong and yet they allow it. You have some of the finest Universities, right there, and yet not one of you can stand up and say that you care more for your rights and the rights of your children; than you do for the few that frequent those places??? Since when is it socially correct to allow your cities to become slums and your children to suffer the consequences of the other things that plague your city as a result of liberal views… drug addiction, broken homes, unemployment, gambling, assults and murders.
How many of OUR people have to suffer, or in the case of Ms. Lamb, have to die; before you take it upon yourself to make change??? Isn’t it true that you make it possible for these things to happen, through your loose laws and your inability to get anything done; or better yet, your desire to make EVERYBODY happy??? And how many people are truly happy in your city??? Only the ones that work there. The ones that are left to turn out the lights are miserable.
The children of your city are tired. They are tired of their mixed signals. They’re tired of being told that it’s wrong to be a queer; and yet, walking down their sidewalks, they see it everywhere… They are tired of you saying that you care about your citizens when you allow drug lords to rule their streets, infecting everyone. They are tired of hearing of the effect of A.I.D.S. at the same time as knowing that there is a prostitute just around the corner that will do them for $10. They’re tired of the drug addiction that reaks in your city so bad that you can literally see the effect of it everywhere. You don’t dare touch anything or go barefoot, as you may get stuck with someone’s used syringe. Allllll, because they have the RIGHT?!?!?!?
You know what, San Francisco??? Since you are going to accuse me of blaming this on you as well, I WILL. Isn’t it your fault: the fact that there are Hell’s Angels on your streets that you, as a city, have allowed to exist for years; that have terrorized our people, our streets and especially our women for decades. What? Is it fun to watch your city, that at one time was the greatest in the world, tremble in fear????
San Francisco, you need to get your clothes on. You are the rotting meat that infects the minds of our men and has left this nation at a loss. You are the ones that leave your meat out to rot, instead of cherishing it. You are the reason we go hungry for fear of catching your disease; and you are the only ones that can do something about it.
And now….. this. I wonder: How many people have turned their eyes and covered their ears to ignore the screams of the innocent??? How many people have looked the other way, and thought it was just another man beating his woman, in an existence that is so sad and violent that even our neighbors don’t care???
It must be true, we are miserable… scared… and confused monkeys; and it’s no wonder that we are looked upon as rotten meat. As that is what we will all become, if we don’t change.
.
Comment by Patti | October 29, 2006
The main thing is the beautiful memory of a beautiful person, Leslie Lamb. We love Leslie. Not passed but now. Leslie’s spirit will always live on with all of us who loves her. She is always in our hearts and thoughts. Our prayers are with her family.
Leslie always was very kind, thoughtful caring person. Always finding the good in everyone even if there wasn’t any, (like with Earl).She would go out of her way to be there for you and help with who ever or what ever it was. When she would come in her smile would light up the room. When you felt down it was a blessing being with Leslie.
Leslie should not have suffered so much. She never did anything to anyone to have anything like this to happen to her.
It’s so sad someone like Earl can take away a mother and a daughter from her family who cares and love her so.
Leslie was like an angel. Now she has returned home and is an Angel watching over and protecting us all.
Leslie is surrounded with love and she is in peace.
Bless you Leslie and we love you.
Comment by Some one who cares | October 29, 2006
I speak for the family when I say enough already. I can speak for them because I am a family memeber. Patti get a life and move on. Our family is going through a VERY difficult time right now and you are NOT helping. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Let Leslie rest in peace and leave the rest alone. For those of you who have had kind words, thank you.
Comment by Enough already | October 29, 2006
You want me to get a life??? I have a life and I intend to
hold on to it. Unlike many of you who want us all to shut
up when it comes to the exploitation of human beings.
Unlike the many that want us to believe that the Hell’s
Angels are just a bunch of “Good ol’ boys” that just want
to have a good time. Their Good Time has made it very hard
for many of us to survive.
How many people do you think that the Hell’s Angels have
killed??? Do you really think that Ms. Leslie was the only
one??? And what?? Are we all supposed to shut our eyes
and ignore the facts in this case?
I am not here to benefit you, or those like you. If you
want to live in a world, completely uninvolved and unaware
of the ones around you; then just tune it out. As much as
I care for the people like Ms. Leslie, there is much more
at stake than a few hurt feelings. If you want to go
through your life thinking that the Hell’s Angels pose no
threat to you, then date one. That is totally up to you..
but don’t come crying to us when you get hurt.
The REAL family of Ms. Leslie wishes that she had listened
when those around her warned her of the “life with a biker”
and now you want me to shut up? It is because of your
ignorance and the ignorance of others like you that this
young lady is no longer with us. And YOU, all by yourself,
say ENOUGH ALREADY??? You act like a teenager that can’t
take NO for an answer.
Are you scared??? The last time I talked to you, you said
that a biker-type didn’t scare you… well how do you feel
now??? Is it the fear that makes you want me to shut up?
What??? are you afraid that the biker-type, boogeyman is
going to come after you because of what they did to Ms.
Leslie??? Maybe you should worry, as it was you with the
cookies and the invitation for all to join you!!!
Are you sure you’re not one of Mr. Earl’s neighbors as I
swear I hear the sound of fear in your voice? Is it not
troublesome that I write a story about San Francisco and
the lack of conscience in our society and up jumps this
idiot that wants me to just go away… What exactly are
you trying to hide, Ms. Enough Already??? Who are you
trying to protect??? Isn’t it time, now, for us to throw
away all our misunderstandings about the world of the Biker?
And if not, then when????
Comment by Patti | October 30, 2006
Patti~
You must enjoy this. The pain you cause. I sat and read your comments. How would you feel if this was your daughter, your sister, your friend? Or maybe this was your mother and you where her son reading these lies? Leslie was a human being, she had a heart and a soul. I grew up with her. We may had lost touch over the years, but she was thought of. It sadden me to think that something this evil could have happened to her or anyone else. My heart goes out to her family and a son that will never have a chance to grow up with a mother. You go around talking all this bull $h!t. You don’t know what happened. The only ones who truly know what happen is Leslie. The police will put it together, NOT YOU. I don’t know who you are, or how you knew Leslie. If you where a friend to her at some point, a true friend would never say these things. If you are someone looking for some kind of attention, you’re getting it, thats for sure. Let Leslie rest in peace for God sake. Let her family grieve. Let her friends grieve. Enough is enough. Let the police do there work and stop speculating and story making. “Rest In Peace Leslie” We all have an angel in heaven watching over us now. One day we all will see each other again.
Comment by A childhood friend | October 30, 2006
We have all had enough already of this so called PATTI!!!
I believe this is this websites creator writting all this “COMMENT BY PATTI” stuff to get some notoriety.
well Patti, not only are you ringing in my head like a COO COO clock!
you are so far off with the whole subject of your website!
blaming bike clubs now!
you are EXTREMELY ignorant !
You are the typical ‘puppet’ of the media…
NOW you have something to bitch about!
This comment will probably not make it to this page, like my last one, although you acknowledged me!
PATTI is the author of this “SCARED MONKEYS” website…
ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Find another hobbie! Write a book, leave victims alone, let their familys deal with the REALITY in store….Not your CONSTANT whining of your thoughts!
GET A LIFE!!!!! leave others alone, find more victims to disect….
Comment by MARK | October 30, 2006
Excuse me…. Since when is this the personal website of
you or Ms. Lamb as you try to claim??? This is a site
for the living. Nobody is trying to hurt you or Ms. Lamb.
If anything, we are trying to make things better for people
like her… that claim stakes on the empty chatter that bikers are not dangerous people.
And now, after the death of Ms. Lesley, you are here to tell
us what?…… that Bikers are good guys? You need to learn
the difference between motorcycle riders and the Hell’s Angels.
Bike Clubs…………….You make me sick!!!!!
Comment by Patti | October 30, 2006
ATTENTION EVERYONE……………
PATTI THRIVES ON NEGATIVITY!!!! Mislabeling people, organizations…
The more we respond to this website……
the more it feeds this coo coo clock that keeps doing just that.
What will PATTI respond next? RANTING about illrelevant topics to the whole website..
POST your proof…… PATTI..
i will from now on refer to the COO COO, CLOCK
Comment by MARK | October 31, 2006
Mark: Perhaps I could introduce you to a torture chamber
the latest in our finest technology… as it sounds like
you need one…. don’t worry your Coo-Coo Clock goes where-
ever you go. Perhaps, that is a hint… I wonder, Did
Mr. Earl own a Coo-Coo clock????!?!?!?!?!!!!
Comment by Patti | October 31, 2006
What is it that you and your Coo-Coo want me to prove???
Is it that Mr. Earl was a violent person that you have such
a hard time comprehending??? Perhaps you think that nice,
peaceful, kind people own torture chambers? Do I need to
remind you of the most negative fact in this case???
Leslie Lamb had EVERY bone in her body broken… now that
sounds like that nice bike club for you, doesn’t it? What
next???
You want me to separate Mr. Earl from those that he associated with… Sorry, Buddy, no can do. He was a
VERY PROUD member of that motorcycle club that just
happens to run most the cat houses, bath houses and massage
parlors in San Francisco…. I can’t change that!!!
You need to talk to your legislaturers.
Comment by Patti | October 31, 2006
Patti (& everyone reading this) - Do you realize that you, “Ms. Patti”, regarded earl stefanson ( or bert?) with the same written, respect =VALUE= as you did for Leslie?…..You did this by how you titled each of their first names; Mr. and Ms. It is your ignorance of publication and opinion, posted here in hardcopy, that virtually damns Leslie Lamb to be connected to this thing THEY call earl. How could you be so careless, insensitive, and disrespectful to Her memory as you sit there at your keyboard and preach to US about Leslie and and about and element of people you obviously know NOTHING about? Patti, you must be suffering and miserlable yourself, to attempt such an invasion on the spirits of these living AND dead people YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW!
1-You DO NOT know Leslie Lamb, 2-You HAVE NOT yet written anything of quality in this site, 3-You CAN NOT even conceive what is FACT, what is OPINION, or the difference between them, 4-You, yes you Patti, are HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE to Leslie’s family and friends with your been-there-done-that, written attitude, and 5-You know absolutely, totally and completely NOTHING about motorcycles, NOTHING about anybody who rides one, NOTHING about the Motorcycle Clubs they may (or may not) belong to, and NOTHING about the families and diverse lifestyles of HELLS ANGELS members and affiliates.
You see, I AM a friend of Leslie Lamb; both before and still after her death. Only a stranger would refer to Her as “Ms. Leslie”. She was “LAMB, or “LESLIELAMB”, or maybe “LES”, to her friends that shared the minutes of the days with her. Trust and believe She does not need you, your opinion, or this site to enlighten the lives of others - it is simply in Her nature. Have some dignity for yourself woman, and keep Leslie Lamb’s name and Her story out of your mouth and off of your keyboard - she wouldn’t like you anyway.
Comment by a.b. | October 31, 2006
Five little pumpkins sitting on a gate:
The first one says, “Oh, My, it’s getting late!”
The second one says, “There’s witches in the air!”
The third one says, “I don’t care.”
The fourth one says, “Lets, Run, Run, Run!!”
The fifth one says, “Isn’t Halloween Fun??!!!!”
OOOOOOOOOH went the wind and out went the lights,
and five little pumpkins scamperred out of sight.
Happy Halloween to All!!!!!
Comment by Patti | October 31, 2006
You are getting waaay off the subject. You are making this a HELLS ANGEL CRIME. Do you even know if Earl was a biker or not?Did he own a motorcycle? The blame should go straight to Earl. Dont blame bikers or Hells Angels for the sick and twisted torture and abuse he performed. If you dont know what your talking about–I wouldnt print it. You say you are in Earl’s head. Help the police. Quit making up stories.
Comment by mac | October 31, 2006
RICHMOND, Calif. — Authorities said that the 8-year-old boy they believe died from being tortured tried to run away multiple times, NBC11’s Damien Trujillo reported.
Raijon Daniels was found unresponsive Saturday in the 700 block of South 40th Street in Richmond. He was taken to Kaiser Permanente Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
Police said they are waiting on autopsy results, expected Wednesday, to charge the boy’s mother, 23-year-old Teresa Moses, with child endangerment, torture and murder.
Comment by New topic for PATTI to disect | October 31, 2006
Since patti is this websites author, my last message will not be posted!
________
M&E: What are you talking about? Please stick to the topic or make comments regarding posts. Patti is not affiliated with this site. They are a commenter just as yourself. Nothing more, nothing less.
RED
Comment by new topic for PATTI to focus on | October 31, 2006
You are waaay off the subject.You are blaming bikers and the sex slave industry and even the Hells Angels. Just because his father was once affiliated with the Hells Angels doesnt make Earl one. Did he even own a motorcycle? If you dont know what you are talking about, dont write it . If you are in his head like you say, Help the police.My heart goes out to Leslie Lambs family.
Comment by mac | November 1, 2006
He is not a member.
Comment by *** | November 1, 2006
Mr. Mac: Please take the time to read the first information
that I found on a case that was very similar to this. And
that is the case in Canada.
All I’m saying is that there is a Sex Slave operation, and they prooved it in Canada. They even exposed how it operated. It, too, involved having several websites
that included everything from pediphilia to sexual murder
(live on film). Isn’t it Earl that made the statement that
he is the x-presidents son??? And what would that mean???
Maybe that the x’s son may have special favor and/or be
privy to the biggest of secrets. If you want to hide out,
that’s okay… but I was kinda hopin’ that there would be
at least a million men out there that agree with me…
Canada has already prooven the link to those who call themselves the Hell’s Angels… why do you think that
it is so difficult to believe it??
Comment by Patti | November 2, 2006
Did you look at the number of people that come to the U.S.
under the assumption that they are getting a job, only to
come up missing, never to be heard from again?
Are you aware that there WAS, indeed, a very big investi-
gation conducted by the State Department, the Justice
Department as well as C.I.A., F.B.I. and local authorities?
You must remember, there was a computer confiscated from
a man that was trying to purchase a blond-haired, blue-
eyed beauty, just like Jon Benet Ramsay off the internet.
Now I wonder where did THAT investigation lead them?
And don’t you find it a little “odd” that his computer
came up missing??? But thank God, we had the copies.
Everybody needs to step back and look at the BIG picture.
I believe that these three murders are tied to eachother
and I am simply making the link using information that is
readily available to everyone. Perhaps, the only reason
that some people never make that connection, is because
they don’t WANT to believe and that’s fine, but the
Scared Monkeys Missing Persons Site has always been about
finding them… that is what I want.
Comment by Patti | November 2, 2006
Childhood friend: If you have heard any negative things
about Ms. Leslie in my writings, I am truly sorry. Mr.
Leslie didn’t do anything. She didn’t know anything and
truly she was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I
was the first to call Ms. Leslie a hero, an angel and an
innocent.
If you, or anyone, has a question, I will tell them, right
up front: Ms. Leslie was an angel. Much toooo good for
Mr. Earl. He knew it and I believe that she knew it as
well; but she always saw to the heart of people. She spoke
to the heart but she, like all so many of us, was unaware
of the people like Mr. Earl. If she is guilty of anything, it would be that she was naive about the REAL world of the so-called Biker. That is obvious.
But is it her fault, or the fault of others that we are
kept in a haze, truly unaware of the truth about these people? THAT’s what the article about San Francisco was
about. How is it that people, readily, believe the dark
side about everyother gang from the Cripps to the Cribs,
but find it so hard to believe that a gang that has become
as American as apple pie, are violent? Weren’t they always
violent or is it their tie to a time when we all believed
in peace and flower power that keeps us blinded? Those days
are gone… and all we have left is the reality of our own
mortality. If you want to hate-on someone, hate the one’s
that have not only fooled you but kept you in a state of
ignorance while they did this right under your noses.
Yes, Ms. Leslie is like me… she is like you… she is like
all of us. If I died like that, I’d beg people to speculate
the truth as that is the only way to effect change. If you
want your children raised to believe that Hell’s Angels are
nice people, that is your perrogative, but mine are going
to know the truth… Ms. Leslie brought down the most power-
ful of them all.
If you are truly interested in seeing exactly what these
bike clubs are about; do a web search under “Justice Department Hell’s Angels” and see for yourself how many crimes have been committed by those that are it’s members.
This story is amazing and true…
Comment by Patti | November 2, 2006
Isn’t it Earl that made the statement that
he is the x-presidents son??? And what would that mean???
Comment by WAKE UP!!! | November 2, 2006
PATTI…
YOU ASSUME AGAIN !
Earl NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SON OF ANYONE! ?
Maybe you are one of these twisted individuals that torture people and enslave them!
re-read EVERYTHING YOU HAVE WRITTEN/DOMINATED this web-page.
Check yourself…….
Comment by WAKE UP PATTI | November 2, 2006
ya know patti, you are clueless and so far off from the reality of things here. I’d like to go back and reiterate on some of the things you’ve said throughout your many days of comments. First of all, you described the night Leslie died in great detail (as if you were there) you said you weren’t there but you saw exactly how it happened through earls mind. Now if you can see in his mind, and you truly beleive that he’s closely connected with the other three missing woman, then there it is. Problem solved, just take your wacky so called sixth-sense and jump back into his head and see where he hid them. then give the police a call and tell them where to look. And my second comment on that same subbject is this, “If you care about Leslie and her family, then why the hell would you go into such gorey details” do you think if someone had just killed your daughter that you would want to go online and read something like that? Come on, Have a heart. First of all I don’t believe in any Psycic mumbo jumbo, I only believe in God. And to confirm why i don’t believe this crap is not only because of God but also because people like you who say they can see inside living people’s minds. Hey question for you, if earl has been doing this for quite some time why did’nt your sick sense put you in his mind before he killed her. And earlier you said that Earl’s statement was that he was the son of the ex-president of the hells angels, correction it was not earls statement it was the newspapers statement and the police statements that said that, in fact earl hasn’t made any statements. Hell, they haven’t even told us his plea as of yet. and just because his dad was affiliated doesn’t mean he was. if my dad was in the circus does that mean that i can walk a tight rope, or am i maybe the lady with the beard. does your dad create wacky websites that find every strange facet that might or might not have to do with a crime or does he have a complete different occupation than you? what i’m trying to say is just because dad does doesn’t mean son does. and when was the last time you heard of the hells angels being accused of running a torture chamber? come on get it right before you put it out therer, or don’t put it out there.
Comment by I Know | November 2, 2006
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
You think I do mumbbo jumbo?????????
Excuse me? I said that I only READ the living. I look at
EARL’s picture and SEE what he SEES!!!! I do not think like
a what do you call them….sIxTh SeNsE business…. ahhhhh
NO. Tell me… What would YOU be thinking about when the
police are booking you after a loooooooooonnnnnnnngggggggg
tour of the city???
That’s what I see, so I’m sorry that you can’t see how truly
Godly I am, because I d